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Step by Step Instructions for upgrading a COMPAQ IPAQ 3870 from Pocket PC 2002 to Pocket PC 2003 ( English )

The following instructions should help you perform this action in under 20 minutes on Windows XP  ( see notes about Vista later )

  • Download the Upgrade/Patch files from http://blog.crowe.co.nz/attachments/nk.nb0.zip  The file to download is called nk.nb0.zip and is ~16 MB in size
  • For those who think this is not legal see this message posted on the original forum where I found the details



    Now lets continue.

  • Download UltraEdit-32 ( 30 day trial ) from here  ~ 11 MB, or use any other HEX editor
  • Unzip the contents of the NK.NB0.ZIP file to a folder such as c:\temp
    • There is two files in this zip file, host11.exe (389 KB) and nk.nb0.bak (32 MB)
    • Rename the nk.nb0.bak file to nk.nb0 ( IMPORTANT )
  • Install UltraEdit-32
  • Load UltraEdit-32 and load the file nk.nb0 as shown below


 

  • You will be presented with a display full of 0's like this:

     
  • We need to make two changes to this file to include details of your serial number from your IPAQ device.

    With the file open in UltraEdit press Ctrl-G to open the GOTO dialog and enter the address 0x01ff000a and hit enter



    You will be taken to an area that contains a number similar to your Serial Number. We need to change this number with your serial number which is on the back of the IPAQ

    To do this we must use the hex values of characters and enter them.

    For example the serial number in the image below contains the following (note: The actual file you download is different)
     
    Digit 4 G 2 7 D W 3 4 9 1 6 G
    Hex value 34 47 32 37 44 57 33 34 39 31 36 47

    For digits 0-9 just prefix with 3, so for example a 5 is actually 35 in hex

    For letters A-Z it is not as simple but an A is 41, B is 42, C is 43, D is 44 etc...

    When entering the values make sure the cursor is flashing the two digit values area. Also make sure you do not change any of the 00

    There is only 12 characters in your serial number and they normally look something like this 4G27DW34916G


     

  • We need to repeat this again exactly for a different area, this time we press Ctrl-G and enter the address 0x01ff0e0a and hit enter



    Again we change the values shown to what you have for your serial number.


     
  • When you have completed the two changes you need to save the file and exit Ultra Edit.
  • We now need to tell our 3870 to go to Upgrade Mode and we perform this with the following steps:

    We need to hold down a number of keys and force the device into update mode.

    We need to first press and hold button 2, then while holding button 2 also hold down button 4 (some flickering will occur on the screen), now while those two buttons are held down we need to hold down the power button. At this stage the screen will dim a little.

    We then need to press the soft reset button which is recessed into the bottom of the device. So while holding the #2, #4 and Power Buttons press the stylus into the Soft Reset button and hold for 3-5 seconds.

    You should then see a screen similar to the following:


     
  • At this point make sure your USB cable is plugged in to your computer.
  • We now need to make sure that the ActiveSync tool is disabled so open Task Manager and go to the processes tab and find the WCESCOMM.EXE process.
  • Select this file (if it exists process list) and select End-Task - this is to stop Active sync taking over.
  • You now need to run host11.exe which will perform the actual upgrade of the Firmware of the device.



    It will take about 5 minutes to perform the upgrade.
     
  • At the end of the upgrade I was told to remove the battery - I am not sure if you really need to or not but I did, not a Simple matter either. Some people have said to do the following so maybe this is to get around the remove the battery prompt.

    Perform a hard reset by holding down the #1 button + the #4 button and click on the recessed Soft Reset for a few seconds.

    Remember, I have not tried this option I removed the battery.
  • At this point when your device loads you should see on the main startup screen that it is running 4.0 and if you go to Start - Settings - System - About you should see the following screen.A


     
  • I performed the steps above on a Windows XP laptop since I was a bit unsure about these weird files HOST11.EXE and NK.NB0    They appear to be fine and my virus scanner did not wing and they do appear to do what they are suppose to.

The only reason I actually went through this process was to be able to use Synchronization on Windows Vista which does not support Pocket PC 2002.

So after I upgraded an plugged in my IPAQ 3870 Pocket PC 2002 and went to the Windows Mobile Device Center all I got was this:

I then went to http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/devicecenter.mspx and downloaded the latest version of the Windows Mobile Device Centre and installed it. When I rebooted I found that when I went to Windows Mobile Device Centre I got the nice version of it as shown below and it does synchronise properly.


If you want to go back to Pocket PC 2002 then there is a firmware available here

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=0&prodSeriesId=96481&prodNameId=100777&swItem=PSG_I14999-37465&swEnvOid=231&swLang=8&taskId=135&mode=3

I found the details of how to do this in the following forum.

http://www.mobileplanet.com/ft.aspx?i=101823&thread=111&page=1

 

posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:18 PM | Filed Under [ Misc ]

Comments


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Hi Chris,

Nice one - a good clear explanation of the steps required to upgrade from PPC 02 to 03. I found that I could change the serial numbers directly, (rather than change the hex numbers) - just by placing my cursor over the existing serial number and typing in the new value. Also, after the flash process is completed, I found that a soft reset was enough to launch the new OS.

Regards,

Kevin
Posted by Kevin on 4/18/2007 9:01 PM

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Hi, great guide...i apreciate your time taken to create it. I am a vista user and i have followed your guide. but when i upgrade i get the error message "cant open usb port". Also windows mobile device center doesnt pick up my pda because it is still ppc 2002. Would love it if you could help me
Thanks alot
Robbie
Posted by Robbie on 4/28/2007 10:00 PM

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I assume you have tried the normal which is trying another USB port on the computer?.

Are you booting up with device plugged in?, how about booting without the device and then plugging it in. I sounds like it has not detected the hardware properly. You may also need to remove it from the hardware device manager if it exists so that windows will find it again.
Posted by Chris Crowe on 4/29/2007 10:28 AM

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Have tried these, the computer picks it up as "Compaq iPAQ usb sync". I can add music to the pda... and also windows mobile device center picks it up but cannot sync because it is a ppc2002. I do not have the installation disk meaning i havn't installed any drivers etc, just the windows drivers.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Posted by Robbie on 4/30/2007 1:08 AM

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I can't download the file from that website?
Any other location or if someone else has it, can it please post it or send it at mikutzuflorin YM. I would really apreciate that.
Thank you!
Posted by mikutzu on 5/10/2007 9:16 AM

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Hi guys
i always have tried to upgrade my 3870 with the description below, but befor the upload was finish'd by the PC (98% - 99%) the PDA tell's me to make the describt reset and the PC looses the connection and i was unable to to make the image work on the 3870.

Can somebody tells mi whats i make wrong?
Posted by Mike on 5/22/2007 11:12 AM

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Hello,

The link dont work ??
Please where can i find the software ??
Thanks
Posted by Marcel on 6/1/2007 1:28 AM

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The link gives 404-NOT FOUND can you please tell where we can get the good file?
Tx
Posted by Joaquim on 6/15/2007 10:50 PM

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I have got the HP offial upgrade from ppc 2002 to ppc 2003 that works on the 3900 series. I can send to anyone for £1.50 payment via paypal. Email me for details -adam.dunford@kmc.ac.uk or adamjd86@googlemail.com
Posted by Adam Dunford on 6/29/2007 12:12 AM

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where can i download your file?
nk.nb0.zip

i had just recently bought a laptop with window vista home basic, and found out the window mobile device center can't sync with my pocket pc 2002.

I know the best solution is upgrade my pocket pc, but i don't want to throw away my pocket pc 2002, anyone know how do i connect my pocket pc 2002 to window vista?

appreciate your help or any suggestion for me?

thanks in advance
Deric

Posted by Deric Law on 6/29/2007 10:40 PM

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Sorry for the delay on finding a solution for the 404 - you can download it by the url below (I have updated the link above to go to my own site)

http://blog.crowe.co.nz/attachments/nk.nb0.zip


Chris
Posted by Chris Crowe on 7/6/2007 10:05 AM

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Thanks for the posting.
Do you know there is wm2003 4.000.6 version out there?
Posted by weggy on 7/11/2007 11:15 AM

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The file name is "[Pocket PC] Pocket 2003 Upgrade for iPAQ 3870 - Final.exe"
Posted by weggy on 7/11/2007 11:58 AM

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is the nk.nb0 file the full release or beta version? if beta, how can we update to the full version "[Pocket PC] Pocket 2003 Upgrade for iPAQ 3870 - Final.exe". i found that and it states, it doesn't recognize the ipaq modell. the rest, language and software is okay. any idea how to get that working?
Posted by Thomas on 7/14/2007 1:16 AM

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I also have the same problem. It says "it is not compatible..."

I know many people upgraded with the file. So there gotta be a way...

someone said that I need to downgrade to 2002 first then upgrade to 2003.

but still have the same "incompatible..." problem downgrading as well.
Posted by weggy on 7/14/2007 6:13 AM

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I am Brazilian.
I can make this update in a IPAQ 3850?
Thanks
Posted by Cristiano on 7/15/2007 6:35 AM

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I heard you can do it. But you have to off the bluetooth function.
Posted by weggy on 7/15/2007 11:22 AM

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Thank you for your input. I have´t try it yet but I will.
I have received an iPAQ 3870 with Pocket PC 2002 OS in German. I wonder if it is possible to upgrade it with the software offered in this website, and also if the language will be changed to English (what is good for me).
thanks
Posted by diego lopez on 7/16/2007 8:46 AM

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It will change to english.

Finally I was able to upgrade to 4.00.6 version. It is better than the 4.00.1
No bluetooth error!!!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-219184.html

this is the link that I learned to upgrade. it was easy.
Posted by weggy on 7/17/2007 1:33 AM

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Hi weggy
Were do you get 4.00.6 rom version? And how could you see on 3870 Ipaq that version?
Thanks fpr replay
Posted by Joaquim on 7/17/2007 8:43 AM

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I got the file from bittorrent.
I think you can google for the file.
Posted by weggy on 7/17/2007 10:27 AM

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Hi Weggy
Sorry again. Do you please put this file on megaupload or rapidshare or something else for i change my 3870 ipaq rom?
I still have 4.00.1 and got problems with bluetooth on gps
Thanks for your time
Posted by Joaquim on 7/17/2007 8:38 PM

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Hi Weggy
I´ve got the file "Pocket 2003 Upgrade for iPAQ 3870 - Final.exe". How do you solve the incompatible problem for upgrade?
I´ve read http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-219184.html and i dont now i make the upgrade to 4.00.6 rom version
Thanks once more
Posted by Joaquim on 7/18/2007 7:49 AM

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unzip the file. then you will see a file contains 2003 image.
erase the two lines (please reference the link.) and change the name.
use host11.exe to flash the pda.
Posted by weggy on 7/18/2007 10:50 AM

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Hi Weggy

Sorry again I´ve unzip the file and the 2003 image has 31745KB I erase as you said the two lines and when ends the flash gives "lost usb connection". The 4.00.1 rom image has 32768KB and when i flash with the ends gives "flash done" and the pda goes well.What can i do to put the 4.00.6 rom image with same lenght as 4.00.1 for gives a right flash?
Does your 4.00.6 rom image has the same lenght as mine?
Thanks
Posted by Joaquim on 7/19/2007 1:51 AM

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I don't know about the length. All I did was erased the two lines.(erase means change the values to zeros.)
Change name. put the pda into usb update( the red screen thing)
And use host11.exe to upload.
Mine upgraded fine.
Posted by weggy on 7/19/2007 2:44 AM

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Hi Weggy
Thanks for your pacience with me. At last i did it.You are right I erase the two first lines and everything goes well At first i fill those lines with zeros but gives error
I got now a 4.00.6 rom image on my old ipaq 3870. I hope it solve bluetooth problems

Posted by Joaquim on 7/19/2007 3:47 AM

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Unfortunately I had a bluetooth error even with 4.00.6 rom. I don't know it was
an issue with other software. I hope you don't have the error any more.
Posted by weggy on 7/21/2007 5:01 AM

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Hi Weggy

The first of all sorry for don´t yet answer but i make a big lot experiences.
1-I return to ppc2002 and tomtom 5 and the problem remaine
2-I´ve changed the bluetooth tomtom dll for ipaq dll and the thing became beter but no full solution
3-Again ppc2003 and all the changes also without any solution. I´ve change tomtom for route66 and goes well but the maps are too old and the conclusion is the problem is not on ipaq bluetooth but tomtom drive
4-I asked you to try this: http://www.tomtom.com/support/index.php?Language=1&query=gps&FID=1438
I also go try on this next week end because i´ve more time to spend
If you think that we change more experiences see my mail
Posted by Joaquim on 7/27/2007 6:46 AM

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I took my gps (compaq with hollux) trip to NC.
Time to time, my pda lost connection to the gps unit. it was so annoying. I had to stop the car to set the pda.
Even without the bluetooth problem, I think the PDA is not working properly due to the heat fron direct sun light. If I put the PDA in the shade. It worked fine.
I tried with different PDA it worked fine. So I think the GPS unit is OK.
But the compaq PDA was the problem.
Posted by weggy on 8/10/2007 8:53 AM

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Hi weggy
Do you get installed tomtom gps in the above link? http://www.tomtom.com/support/index.php?Language=1&query=gps&FID=1438
For you make sure that it´s a ipaq problem :
1-Install tomtom gps
2-Open instaled program and connect your bluetooth device
3-Select tomtom navigator bluetooth serial port COM5 Then you must see the satelits connections.
4-Out tomtom gps and open the tomtom program. You must try if you lose the gps connection
Since my last post 7/27/2007 6:46 AM i got any more problems with my ipaq 3870 and gps navigation.I traveled more than 300km and in my country is sommer with a very hight temperatures
Posted by Joaquim on 8/11/2007 8:28 AM

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ok I have got the serial number all straightened out.... is there a seperate loction for the Asset Tag? That is still missing
Posted by Duncan on 10/8/2007 7:10 PM

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Ah got it now...
the asset tag starts at 0x01FF0E00 not 0x01FF0E0A
The serial number starts at 0X01FF000A
Posted by Duncan on 10/10/2007 9:47 PM

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Thanks a lot!!!
Posted by Baraban on 10/23/2007 12:07 PM

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Thanks a lot!!!
Posted by Baraban on 10/23/2007 12:07 PM

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thank you
Posted by roy bryant on 12/18/2007 4:47 PM

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Would the Compaq upgrade to 2003 SE because it is my dad's business PDA and i do not want to screw up the hardware on it.
Posted by Gideon on 12/30/2007 11:44 PM

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hello,

my usb port is not support vista says could not open port.
Help me what to do

MdB
Posted by MdB on 1/1/2008 4:51 AM

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Can I also upgrade a 3970 in that manor? I tried it on serveral pc`s - put there is allways an error: lost usb port. How can I fix it? Or is there a special way to upgrade ipqa 3970?
Greetings Dieter
Posted by Dieter on 1/27/2008 12:00 AM

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Great upgrade, works like a charm, even bluetooth. Thanks!!!!
Posted by Tom on 2/16/2008 12:11 PM

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Thx mare worked a treat..just confirming that the hard reset works.i didnt take the battery out as it looked like a nightmare job.
Posted by ding70 on 2/29/2008 10:35 AM

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Thx mare worked a treat..just confirming that the hard reset works.i didnt take the battery out as it looked like a nightmare job.
Posted by ding70 on 2/29/2008 10:35 AM

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once donde the upgrade can use .net compact framework 2.0 sofware such sql server mobile 2005 ??
thanks in advance
Posted by Ruben on 3/8/2008 6:25 AM

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Hello there,

I have ipaq 3870 about 4 years now. a few months ago is the activesync connector damaged, when I connect the device to my pc it shows up as unknown device !

De device does recharge the battery, and that is great.

but I'm unable to upgrade to PPC2003.

my request to any 3870 user with PPC2003:

Can you please make a backup of your PPC2003 and mail it to me then I will be able to restore to my 3870.

Please help.
Posted by nour on 4/21/2008 10:10 PM

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can some on tel me what will be conversion this serial number:
Digit 4 G 2 7 D W 3 4 9 1 6 G
Hex value 34 47 32 37 44 57 33 34 39 31 36 47


as far as i can see W should be 63 !!

is that type error ??!
Posted by nour on 4/23/2008 2:23 AM

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Hoera, works as charm

many thanks
Great
Posted by nour on 4/23/2008 3:10 AM

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Great guide.

I did have to download two extra DLL files however to get HOST11 to work properly. They were ceutil.dll and rapi.dll. I was using Win XP SP2.

Thanks
Posted by norm on 4/24/2008 10:29 AM

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i have treble problem !!! when my device where on 99% said something like "usb port lost" ( BUT it where connected surely ).
now when i try button 2 also hold down button 4 and power and normal reset a compaq screen come and nothing happen and go
and the same for holding down the #1 button + the #4 button and click on the recessed Soft Reset.
what should i do now !!?
please help it's my brother pda and he will kill me with no doubt!
Posted by emad on 5/12/2008 7:22 PM

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the trouble maybe because of i did not disabled or end process the ActiveSync tool - or because i didnt use ultraedit32 anyway !!! how idiot i am!!! now can someone tell me is there any way to revive or get back my device to life !!!
please show your majesty!!!
Posted by emad on 5/14/2008 12:49 AM

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Here are the two official Windows Mobile 2003 (WM2003) HP upgraders for the H3800 series.

Download this version if you have a non-bluetooth model ( H3815 / H3830 / H3835 / H3845 / H3850 ).

http://www.filedropper.com/upgradeh3800ppc2003non-bluetooth


Download this version if you have a bluetooth enabled model ( H3870 / H3875 ).

http://www.filedropper.com/upgradeh3800ppc200340006

Regards
Posted by norm on 5/14/2008 10:10 AM

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Here are the two official Windows Mobile 2003 (WM2003) HP upgraders for the H3800 series.

Download this version if you have a non-bluetooth model ( H3815 / H3830 / H3835 / H3845 / H3850 ).

http://www.filedropper.com/upgradeh3800ppc2003non-bluetooth


Download this version if you have a bluetooth enabled model ( H3870 / H3875 ).

http://www.filedropper.com/upgradeh3800ppc200340006

Regards
Posted by norm on 5/14/2008 10:10 AM

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Thanks a lot Norm
but i could not use them because my device is half dead now !!! do you know way to flash my device !!!
my device doesn't boot up any way just compaq screen come and fade !! i there is no way to revive my device please tell to not waist my time on it :(( .
thanks million again
Posted by emad on 5/14/2008 4:15 PM

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Emad,

With those two official upgraders you can extract the firmware by opening the .exe with WinRAR (www.rarlabs.com). In the image below I am extracting Upgrade_H3800_PPC2003_30006.nbf, the firmware for the non-bluetooth version.

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r20/norm360/winrar_extract.jpg

Once extracted, open that firmware in UltraEdit and delete the first 32 bytes.

Select iPAQ 3800-ENG-3.00-2878--------- and press CTRL+D, enter 32 for the number of bytes to delete, then press ok.

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r20/norm360/ultraedit_delete.jpg

Now press F12 and save file as nk.nb0, place that file in the folder with host11.exe

Now you are ready to flash your device.

Hold buttons 2 + 4 + Power + Reset and wait until it says "Remote USB Loader".

From there you can run the host11.exe program from your PC and flash a new firmware.

Good luck.

PS, You can also use the same method to downgrade the firmware, simply extract the appropriate firmware from the .exe file.
Posted by norm on 5/16/2008 3:08 AM

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thanks a lot Norm
but my problem is a lot bigger :D
when i try to Hold buttons 2 + 4 + Power + Reset and wait until it says "Remote USB Loader". what i see is just compaq screen come and fade in 2 second!!
i think i need a jtag reflash !!! if you now how to this manually in home please tell me !!! i no hope but to jtag reflash i think if you know a better way please share it . ( oh you dont how i feel what i need is just time-watch to do not romupgrade my device :(( ---------)
Posted by emad on 5/25/2008 7:39 PM

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after a lot of searching i fond :
openwince.sourceforge.net/jtag/iPAQ-3600/
which told a way to reflash h3600 not mine (h3800). now i wonder if anyone tell me a way to reflash my h3800 in easier or the same way ( that was to hard and weird)
opps this site flagged me as s-p_a^m plesae contact me at emad_2006new@yahoo.com
Posted by emad_X2 on 5/26/2008 2:12 AM

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Try keeping the iPAQ connected to a power supply when you press the buttons. And keep holding the buttons until the screen changes to say "Remote USB Update".

You could also try a hard reset 1 + 4 + Reset, see if that makes any difference.

Regards
Posted by norm on 5/26/2008 2:44 PM

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houoh !!!
there is no hope!! thanks a lot that you keep answering my stupid question !!! but just white and red compaq come screen when i keeping to do that ! just 2 second and fade !! ( i where upgrade my device successfully but not with damn host11). now my device is dead please be silent for a minute !!!
my lonely hope is reflash !!! but compaq does not support it !! and another one is ipaqrepair.co.uk/view_product.php?product=303
to buy a board but !! i live in iran and my country is boycott so if could help me anymore please contact me at emad_2006new@yahoo.com
Posted by emad_X2 on 5/26/2008 9:03 PM

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Thanks for all these details,but can someone upload again this file:
http://www.filedropper.com/upgradeh3800ppc200340006.
The link to download is out.
Thanks
Posted by takeiteasy on 6/5/2008 5:18 AM

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Hi, might someone upload the nk.nbo.zip file? It's unavailable on this site or any other link here. Gives "404 - File or directory not found" message.
Thank you.
Posted by Jaklis on 6/7/2008 5:17 AM

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The links I posted are working.

http://www.filedropper.com/upgradeh3800ppc200340006

http://www.filedropper.com/upgradeh3800ppc2003non-bluetooth

These are the official upgraders, so you don't need to use the nk.nb0 file.

Regards
Posted by norm on 6/8/2008 5:30 AM

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The links I posted are working.

http://www.filedropper.com/upgradeh3800ppc200340006

http://www.filedropper.com/upgradeh3800ppc2003non-bluetooth

These are the official upgraders, so you don't need to use the nk.nb0 file.

Regards
Posted by norm on 6/8/2008 5:30 AM

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thank you Norm for your help.
If you don't mind,2 questions:
-do you think i can upgrade to a higher version>wm5
-a friend of mine have the same "problem",and he want to upgrade in FRENCH Version,an idea where we can get a Fench Version.
Thanks again,and have a good day.
Salutations.
NB:the link is out using Firefox????,so use IE>OK
Posted by takeiteasy on 6/8/2008 8:13 PM

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Thanks guys. This worked fine except my Bluetooth is now unstable. I can run TomTom ok but linking to the net via my PC almost always fails leading to a soft reset. Any ideas?
Posted by Hydra on 6/11/2008 9:51 PM

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Thanks Norm, I really needed the 2003 update so I can use a barcode reader in my ipaq. I REALLY appreciate you posting the file!
Posted by redheadedrob on 8/1/2008 3:27 AM

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Hi

Please help. Does anybody know the location(s) of model in the nk.nb0 file? The field in empty in the said file.

Thanks
Posted by afrenz on 8/17/2008 6:59 PM

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Hi

Sorry, I meant the address in the nk.nb0 file to edit the model.

Thanks again
Afrenz
Posted by afrenz on 8/17/2008 7:59 PM

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Hi everybody,
I finally managed to upgrade my Compaq iPaq 3870 (Bluetooth version). It was totally dead, e.g. it didn't even light up when I pressed power. I upgraded the firmware according to Norm (see up).

1) I CREATED THE nk.nb0 FILE DELETING THE FIRST 32bytes IN ULTRAEDIT (see great Norm's explanation: Posted by norm on 5/16/2008 3:08 AM)

2) I uploaded the file using host11.exe program
I will create a new link (today on 21 August), try to keep it alive/post new ones
http://rapidshare.com/files/138986823/host11.exe.html


and it works fine. Though I wasn't succesfull for a long time and I will share with you my mistakes you should avoid:

1) change the file according to what says Norm (e.g. delete the first 32bytes), that' enough. you don't have to put in your serial as described in the beginning of this forum, JUST LEAVE IT BLANK THAT'S ENOUGH

2) do not forget to shut off ActiveSync (=WCESCOMM.EXE process in Task Manager). I forgot 2 times:-)) What happens is that the upgrade goes up to 99% and then you get the message "USB connection lost"

3) if your iPaq is absolutely dead as was mine, do everything with the electricity plugged in, it will heal off with new firmware inside. I actually had to dismantle the craddle so that I could have the eletricity plugged in and push the reset button (because you have to perform hard reset at least one time)

OK good luck boys and thanks a lot to Chris Crowe and the Mythical NORM for the precious informations:-)
Thanks guys!!
Posted by viktor on 8/21/2008 12:59 AM

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will this work for an ipaq 3830 also
Posted by tim mccright on 10/19/2008 8:58 AM

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Please, I cant download this:

http://www.filedropper.com/upgradeh3800ppc2003non-bluetooth

Can somebody send me it to my email PJparek@seznam.cz

Thanks a lot
Posted by PJparek on 10/27/2008 6:25 PM

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i used this link

"http://www.filedropper.com/upgradeh3800ppc200340006"

and as far as i know ia graet link. Great post....

but when i make the reset my conputer wont recognize the ppc and wont continou the set up.
also im using "vista ultimate sp1"

Any comments on that?
Posted by Beto on 1/9/2009 3:02 PM

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It appears that the non-bluetooth version from filedropper is not available is it possible for someone to upload again?

Thanks
Posted by Lou on 1/14/2009 2:05 AM

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The links don't work to that software. The files download but are only 400 odd bytes in size.
Posted by Chris on 1/21/2009 9:10 PM

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I found the 3870 Windows Mobile 2003 file here: http://dl1u.savefile.com/552f124af2166adf0fc9165e7b848ebd/3870.rar

Hope this helps someone.
Posted by Chris on 1/22/2009 1:52 AM

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Is this procedure good for upgrading a Compaq 3850 to PPC 2003.
cheers
Mike Bradburn
Posted by Mie Bradburn on 1/27/2009 10:23 AM

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To Chris and/or Norm,
This blog is (at the very least) fun to read. I hope eman is still alive !
I'm a network engineer and customers give me old technology from time to time. So I get the chance to experiment w/o getting in trouble. Anyway, I'm holding a 3835 (no blue-tooth). I got a new battery but it is still a little squirrely (probably dropped a few times) anyway I want to go through your update process thinking it might stabilize the thing. I can not find the non-blue tooth file version at any of the links on this blog. Do you happen to know what happens on a non-blue tooth device if one upgrades with a blue-tooth version ?

Thanks guys for any direction you have time to provide.
-g
Posted by Gene on 1/30/2009 2:04 AM

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Hello,

all links doesn't work. Could anyone uplaod it again?
The best is when one load the orginal version up.

Please, I need it very fast.
Posted by Michael on 2/13/2009 10:14 AM

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I am also interested in upgrading my 3870, as with Michael, I can't get the links to work.
Any help would be appreciated.
Posted by Robert on 2/15/2009 3:21 PM

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I have restored the file and you can download it again.

Sorry

http://blog.crowe.co.nz/attachments/nk.nb0.zip


Chris
Posted by Chris Crowe on 2/16/2009 2:09 PM

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Hi Chris,

thanks for the file.
I'm downloading at the moment.
I hofe it will work.
BTW: Is it true that this will work on the Ipaq h3850 too?

Michael
Posted by Michael on 2/17/2009 7:29 AM

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Hi Chris
thanks for the file. I have downloaded it and updated p pc successfully. I may have made a little error in changing the nk0.nb0 file as asset viewer shows a bunch of little squares in the serial row (asset tag is right) except a w and a 6 (in the right places). Doesn't seem to have affected its running though!

So once again, many thanks
Posted by Robert on 2/19/2009 11:29 PM

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Hi,

one question is open:

I have got an Ipaq 3850 with a german rom. Can I use this file for my Ipaq?
I would not kill it. So I ask before I will flash it.

Please help me

Michael
Posted by Michael on 2/27/2009 10:32 AM

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Chris!!!
Thank You so much! I had to upgrade ,because my Ipaq 3835 went blind on memory stick. It worked. I felt like NASA employee . It's a super anal upgrade and it worked!
Thank You, Again!
Posted by Alex N on 3/24/2009 5:29 PM

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I search the french upgrade version. Have you an idee to find this?
Thank you
Posted by Dany Wanono on 4/23/2009 4:43 AM

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Hello, I am upgrading a Compaq 3870 from a laptop running under Vista. When I go to open the download file Host11.exe after inputting all the hex numbers etc. and preparing the IPAQ the laptop will not open the USB port. I have tried replugging the USB as the error message suggests but this does not help. Hmmm. Any suggestions please?
Posted by Mark Lavender on 4/25/2009 10:34 PM

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I search the french version of upgrade.
If you know i can find this, thank to explain me.
thank's
Posted by Dany Wanono on 4/30/2009 4:25 AM

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Hello, I am upgrading a Compaq 3870 Thank You so much its work very very good
thank's man if you have update pleez post or mail me at @yahoo.com
Posted by jhonyvyrus on 5/9/2009 7:51 AM

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if dont modifi the file nk.nb0.bak file to nk.nb0 ( IMPORTANT )wuith your serial nr never work
Posted by jhonyvyrus on 5/9/2009 7:59 AM

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Thanks it's working on my old ipaq 3870...!
Posted by franky on 5/18/2009 11:21 PM

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ipaq ded i repair online mail me @yahoo.com
Posted by jhonyvyrus on 5/23/2009 4:06 AM

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Thanks A lot Chris, just did and working Fine on my Ipaq 3870 , by the way no need remove battery only perform the hard reset as per your notes.
Posted by Juan Paz on 6/18/2009 6:51 AM

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im scared of doing it on my 3850 with bluetooth, 2 or 3 question about the 3850 that never got answered im wondering why. did anybody succeed in doing the swap?
Posted by Mat-a-Tout on 6/19/2009 2:58 PM

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Hi Chris,

A vary good clear explanation of the steps required to upgrade from PPC 02 to 03.
I can use this tutorial to upagrade my H3950 with inside PPC2002??

kamaleon
Posted by kamaleon on 8/19/2009 1:19 AM

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Hello together,

what´s about the post by Michael dated on 2/27/2009. I have also an IPAQ 3850 whith German rom.

"...I have got an Ipaq 3850 with a german rom. Can I use this file for my Ipaq?
I would not kill it. So I ask before I will flash it...."

How does it works to change an German rom to English rom?

Thx in advance
Falk
Posted by Falk on 8/21/2009 1:48 AM

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I have just upgraded my iPAQ 3970 from 2002 to 2003 with software purchased on ebay for £6.99 (see http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pocket-PC-2003-Upgrade-for-hp-Compaq-iPAQ-3970-3975-PDA_W0QQitemZ350225462570QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Computing_Software_Software_SR?hash=item518b10752a&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 ). The software, which reflashes the device, is original HP. The upgrade process was very simple indeed and has been very successful. There are all sorts of precautions one has to take but they are obvious and not onerous (back up data, ensure that iPAQ has AC power supply during the procedure, ensure that the PC doesn't go into hibernation, use a direct USB connection and not via a hub, etc. etc)

Very much to be recommended.
Posted by Paddy on 9/1/2009 7:48 AM

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Read the date, now we are in 2009, I started with my IPAQ3870, but not working with Vista, two years later this post I tried to upgrade from WM2002 to WM20003, and IT REALLY WORKS, merely WONDERFUL,GREAT, MARVELLOUS, BRILLIANT, so many thanks.
Now I can install tomtom 7, syncing with my portable PC all events and files.
No matter it is only in English as it is not my mother lagnuage, but Itried several attempts through different procedures 'n never I was able to upgrade.
Magnific.
Posted by Sisar Miunios on 9/18/2009 8:47 AM

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I am running Windows Vista On my computer but when i try and run this file host11 but i get an error saying (Can't Open USB port) what do i do to fix that problem
Posted by David on 10/4/2009 10:40 PM

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Do any of these updates work for the 3955? Visual Studio works with PC2003 but not my PC2002.
Posted by Winston on 10/5/2009 4:16 PM

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Thank you very much for this page. My 3870 now works with vista.

You have to run the host11.exe from a windows XP machine and not vista.

I did it with a virtual machine.
Posted by Marco on 10/7/2009 10:30 AM

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i have been given an compaq ipaq 3850. is there anyway to get this to work with vista?
Posted by doug dickson on 10/12/2009 8:16 AM

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Hi Guys

I have updated my Ipaq 3970 and am having problems with the bluetooth. I used the host11.exe with the nk.nbo file. Just wondering if anyone found a fix to the bluetooth problem. I tried the

http://www.filedropper.com/upgradeh3800ppc200340006
however the link appears to be broken
Can somebody please repost a new link or send me the files to adamhenderson_1990@hotmail.com

Any Help appreciated

Adam
Posted by Adam on 11/21/2009 3:52 PM

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Sorry guys typo

its an Ipaq 3870

thanks

Adam
Posted by Adam on 11/21/2009 3:53 PM

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